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HHS-Run Website Hacked To Hawk Boots, Perfumes, and NFL Jerseys

timothy posted about a year ago | from the but-don't-worry dept.

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cold fjord writes with this excerpt from the Weekly Standard: "A portion of the website of the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) was apparently hacked as long as two months ago. SAMHSA is an agency of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). HHS also runs the new Obamacare insurance marketplace, Healthcare.gov. Dozens of pages hawking retail merchandise have been uploaded to the SAMHSA site, ranging from NFL jerseys to Ugg shoes to Armani fragrances. ... Shortly after this story was posted, the site nace.samhsa.gov returned an error message saying that the site could not be found. Later, the following message appeared on the site (misspelling included): 'This site is undgoing maintenance. We are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you.'" (Screenshots in the story; Cached example from Google.)"

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I think that puts proof to the lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042743)

I think that puts proof to the lie that the healthcare.gov servers are overloaded due to "massive demand for Obamacare:" they're not. They're just horribly mismanaged, just like everything else the federal government does, so that the meager demand that does exist easily swamps them.

Re:I think that puts proof to the lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042813)

maybe the IT department jumped-the-gun and quit going to work a little too soon?

Re: I think that puts proof to the lie (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043155)

Or maybe these servers aren't managed by the same people? HHS server admin and/or security may be outsourced? Or maybe it's the ACA servers that were outsourced.

Just because one <insert something> is not managed properly doesn't mean a similar <insert same thing> that has a different problem suffers from the same mismanagement.

Re: I think that puts proof to the lie (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#45044483)

No matter how it happened I think there is a bit of explaining that needs to be done regarding how a government agency's servers were used to sell consumer goods for two months. Nobody noticed? Really? Almost as interesting is either nobody reported it, or nobody took action on the reports. Once against, more explanations are needed.

Citation needed (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042919)

Have a source for that, or are you just trying to see how tall of a bullshit mountain you can make?

Re:I think that puts proof to the lie (1)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about a year ago | (#45042975)

"puts proof to the lie"

This phrase makes no sense, so I'm going to try using it in a sentence to see if I understand it correctly.

Yesterday someone calling himself a capitalist/god-worshipper/communist killed someone. I think that puts proof to the lie that activist capitalists/god-worshippers/communists are improving the world. They're not. They're murderers, just like all other capitalists/god-worshippers/communists.

Re:I think that puts proof to the lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042997)

https://www.google.com/#q=%22puts+proof+to+the+lie%22

8 results

Yes, AC has used a meaningless phrase.

Re:I think that puts proof to the lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043373)

9 results now that /. is the top result ;-)

Re:I think that puts proof to the lie (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043651)

No. The healthcare.gov servers are overloaded due to massive demand for NFL jerseys ;)

Re:I think that puts proof to the lie (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about a year ago | (#45044597)

At those prices, can you blame them? It must be a special government only deal!

A real shame. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042753)

As someones life my well be in the balance.
A world where political points are more valued than life is a world that is doomed.
Just a matter of time until an error is made that can not be recovered from.

Inevitable (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042797)

Well, this was inevitable.

Those crazy webmaster dudes at SAMHSA are always jonesing for a fix - it seems that someone couldn't wait for payday.

!newsfornerds (0)

mdm42 (244204) | about a year ago | (#45042849)

At what point do we get past every cracked website being "news for nerds, stuff that matters"? It's not. It's either a criminal matter or it's a story of negligence or incompetence. This might have been a story in 1999, but today it certainly doesn't qualify as the slightest bit interesting in any technical way. Similarly, news about US government employees and websites,... it's not news for nerds. It may well be important to many /. readers who live in the USA. It might even have some significance as World News. But "stuff that matters" to technically-inclined people? Not so much. Post it to Reddit, then, but it doesn't belong here.

*sigh* I guess I want my /. of 2005 back. Now get the hell off my lawn.

Re: !newsfornerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043441)

government in competence IS news for nerds. this kind of amateur shit never happens in the private sector and I for one want to know when my tax dollars are being burned so we can shut up the dumbass liberals once and for all.

Re: !newsfornerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45044991)

This happens all the time in the private sector. It just doesn't make as big of waves because it's the private sector.

I dare you to google "cheap nfl jerseys" and see how many private sector websites are returned hacked all to hell. Just yesterday I cleaned out over 50k hijacked pages on a VERY large company's website (that I guarantee you purchase from if you live in the US) that were hawking cheap jerseys, vigara, etc.

Re: !newsfornerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45046041)

sometimes you just have to shake your head at how naive liberals are. in the RARE occasions that this happens in the private sector those responsible are fired. in government they are given promotions.

Re: !newsfornerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45047305)

Sounds like you're talking out of your ass, and you'll never stop.

all part of the plan (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042861)

Anyone who isn't addicted to American consumerism is mentally ill. This perfectly normal retail portion of the website helps Americans recovering from substance abuse by encouraging them to spend all their money on shiny crap instead.

Re:all part of the plan (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042929)

If they spend all their money on NFL jerseys, they can't spend it all on marijuanas needles and cocaine pills! Seems like a logical solution!

Re:all part of the plan (1)

Sarten-X (1102295) | about a year ago | (#45044325)

Look, I know you're trying to be funny, but you're just showing your ignorance, and it's really getting in the way of the joke.

The word is "marijuani".

"It is no measure of health..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45044695)

"...To be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society..." - Jiddu Khrishnamurti

* That about sums it up...

APK

P.S.=> A sick society that makes wars to make the 1% wealthy even wealthier, along with wiping out the potential competitor to them in a middle-class (who in courts of "law" CAN afford to get a chance in it) - by offshoring good paying jobs, for starters, so they profit AND break that middle class @ the same time.

I.E.-> Erode that middle class' wealth? Who can stand against you as the "wealthy 1%'er"? Answer = NOBODY! Then they can make their WARS (most profitable enterprise there is mind you for the wealthy investment class), for "FREEDOM" (whose freedom & what kind? FINANCIAL FREEDOM for those 1%'ers is who & what is really is!).

Additionally (as far as standing up to "the man"): Not that you ever really could, since they just DELAY you until you couldn't afford to pay YOUR attorney anyhow, just like bluffing in poker when you've got more chips pretty much.. i.e. -> Just "lean on 'em", until they break! Except this latter route COSTS MORE, & they figured out a better way, above... take away folks' money! Keep them living "hand-to-mouth", paycheck to SHITTY paycheck, scared to open their mouths (not that 'freedom of speech' & the constitution even MATTERS anymore). They also spend it on spy networks (NSA) to find anyone that DOES speak their mind, to stomp on them too since that is REALLY what that is truly, all about (not finding 'terrorists' since the ROI on THAT is shitty for what was spent, hugely so in fact). Top that off with them being CAUGHT & ADMITTING they abused it no less.... wtf!

Example? The CEO of QWEST: He wouldn't comply? They trump up charges of "insider trading" on him, & put him away... that, is WHY this spy network was set up. The honest politicians (what little few there are)?? Kept in check, I am CERTAIN of it, by blackmail the SAME way.

Now, by way of comparison? They outright LIE to congress & get away with it... you or I do the same?? Well, you know!

It makes ME think "WTF" - don't know about the rest of you (then again, I do - anyone I've spoken of this about thinks the same, from the local garbageman, to the postman up to say, educators & engineers etc.)!

That's what I see going on - & so do others!

So, instead of taking care of the general public constituency, THAT's is what "good government" does, nothing more (puppets of the lobbyists & wealthy - TRULY "the best politicians money can REALLY buy").

All done, by simply changing rules in "secret courts" (WTF?) & making "new laws" that even blow off the constitution, done via puppet politicians ("best money can REALLY buy") that the wealthy really own, via hedging their bets backing EITHER candidate, so they win, either way (& we ALL lose)!

Man - YOU brought up junkies? There's WORSE ones that harm far more others, in their sickness of the soul/virus of the spirit as I call it, in GREED! They lack components of morality MOST folks have, & to satisfy their need for a "power & control" fix, they pull this shit!

Get over 1 thing I see here, quite a lot: THERE IS NO "DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS" folks - there is only puppets owned by the same "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" wealthy.

Well - then, it surprises me that more people haven't gotten out the heroin needle & just plain given up (that, or violent revolution, the worse result overall BY FAR)... However, the latter in parenthesis won't happen!

Not until they keep up their "governmental shutdown" b.s., cutting welfare though - that's when actual revolutions in history take place (when folks are freezing or starving, along with their kids), & WHY the welfare system was REALLY put in place (to maintain "government continuity"). All the while, NO MATTER WHAT, those that're part of the "good ole' boys clique" keep profiting at YOUR taxpayer expense, keeping THEIR job, while the rest of us lose ours.

THAT IS THE "GAME" PEOPLE, in a nutshell: Wake up!

If anyone reads this? The insanity out there now??

It makes me sick... it really does! We're being run by BIGGER CRIMINALS than have ever existed in this nation since its founding, no questions asked. Large corporations pay less taxes than YOU do... imagine that. Not hard to - it's like playing monopoly with someone who constantly CHANGES THE RULES in THEIR favor... not yours by ANY means!

I had a HUGE argument with my father about this a decade++ ago... he called me nuts: Strangely, he doesn't, not anymore... & all he had to do was LOOK around, like I did (I saw this shit coming 10++ yrs. or more ago - it always happens, when you give ANY MAN or group of men, absolute power (it corrupts, absolutely)). History shows you that, & man? Hasn't changed. No, I take that back - they've changed in their capacity to PUSH things until they break, & they're succeeding.

It's stupid short-term products of IDIOTS thinking that run things - selfish undereducated greedy sociopaths, nothing more - Especially when you look @ the lunacy & insanity going on out there, it truly does... it's, to put it lightly, discouraging!

Man, I said "wake up" earlier? Everyone I know or even DON'T KNOW I've spoken to of it, knows it... that's the ONLY part that gives me a bit of hope things DO get better than they are now, before they get worse.... Our "fearless leaders" are showing you that they are RUINING things & aren't intelligent enough (or don't WANT) to fix things...seems stupid to me, but perhaps NOT to those wanting the ship to sink (for whatever reason, real reason, they have to be running things SO stupidly) - this all is easy to fix, & you start with hauling back GOOD paying jobs that were offshored, level taxes for individuals & CORPORATIONS, evenly, legalize pot & tax it + STOP THE FUCKING WARS for starters!

... apk

Article Moderation: -1, Troll (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042865)

A link to the right-wing near-tabloid "The Weekly Standard", calls the PPACA "Obamacare", assumption that HHS doesn't have multiple teams / varying levels of security and monitoring based on site importance, implication that a single hacked site somehow implies the entire department of Health and Human Services is incompetent.

The fact that timothy green-lights this shit is mind-boggling.

Re:Article Moderation: -1, Troll (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year ago | (#45043339)

We've had articles linked to the Daily Caller, National Review, Reason Magazine, and if memory serves, World Net Daily.

I'm expecting there soon to be an article that links to the somewhat paradoxically-named American Thinker.

Re:Article Moderation: -1, Troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043391)

Yeah fuck those guys. Their opinion is different than mine so it doesn't count and they must be shunned and dismissed regardless of what the facts are.

Re:Article Moderation: -1, Troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043803)

Your difference of opinion does not change the facts, regardless of what the facts are. We're right, you're wrong; get over it.

Re:Article Moderation: -1, Troll (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year ago | (#45045845)

Their opinion is different than mine so it doesn't count

No, their opinion doesn't count because they believe that soy products make you gay (in the case of WorldNetDaily) and because they believe it's possible to be a socialist and a crony capitalist at the same time in the case of all the others.

Not all opinions are equal, and there are not two sides to every story. You understand that, right?

Why is the site even up? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042917)

I thought all the websites got shut down in the the government shutdown...

Also, i hope the dude which is cleaning up the mess doesn't get paid overtime. Those taxes are for the government to waste, not you.

wrong word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042939)

you should have said Hock, not hawk

Re:wrong word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043193)

Stupid lady you are going to pawn shop with mixed up bird brain. Hawk crap is correct.

Re:wrong word (1)

petteyg359 (1847514) | about a year ago | (#45043813)

Hock up your incorrect knowledge of vocabulary and hawk it to somebody else.

Re:wrong word (1)

Gibgezr (2025238) | about a year ago | (#45044587)

Strange and implausible as it may seem, "hock" means selling your wares to a pawnshop, and "hawk" means selling your wares to the public. I know, I know, it makes no sense, but there it is, the strange and wonderous beauty of the english language in full flight.

a great example of (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45042953)

govt efficiency at its finest!

Buy! (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about a year ago | (#45043225)

I think the feds should take advantage of those low prices. At least then, when they default, we can all end up with free T-shirts and a pair of shoes.

Re:Buy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043301)

i guess the off-the-books part of the budget isn't quite enough to keep the surveillance train going for dhs so they had to set up some hacked up storefronts to earn some extra cash.

NFL jerseys to Ugg shoes to Armani fragrances? (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | about a year ago | (#45043249)

Sounds very familiar, this exact same link-spam has been hitting ./ for a couple of years now. Usually several postings from one user, somewhat individualized posts. I just moderate all posts by that user -1 troll and they disappear from sight/site. Whack-a-mole for sure, but at least the spamming becomes less visible/effective.

Re:NFL jerseys to Ugg shoes to Armani fragrances? (1)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#45043365)

Inserting actual sales pages is far more than just link spam. I run several sites, including blogs and forums and deal with link spammers every day. This required either a software exploit, or a human one (social engineering/inside man).

Re:NFL jerseys to Ugg shoes to Armani fragrances? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043381)

Yea, just saying it's the same "clients".

I don't see proof it was hacked (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043303)

Looks like they just didn't properly verify UGC.

not seeing proof of hacking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45043309)

really just looks like they didn't verify UGC and let people upload junk in one section that should have been moderated.

Terminate (1)

Lawrence_Bird (67278) | about a year ago | (#45044105)

Clearly nobody needs that government sub-agency. Not one complaint in months? Not one employee (let alone tech admin) noticed?

Not a hack (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a year ago | (#45044729)

With the impending and now current government shutdown, HHS clearly just decided to dedicate a portion of their site to selling merchandise in an attempt to partially self-fund their operations. I say well done, HHS.
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