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VLC Media Player 0.8.4 is out

Hemos posted more than 8 years ago | from the come-and-get-it dept.

Upgrades 199

mctk writes "This new release features many improvements including a new VLC cone, new Mac OS X wizard and extend controls dialogs, tree playlist skins2 support, HTTP interface CGI handling, linux binary codecs loader, UPnP and Bonjour service discovery, shoutcast stream forwarding, new languages... Have a look here for the full list of changes. Binary packages and the source code are available on the VLC download page." Always been one of my favorites on any platform.

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first! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14126652)

FP!

vlc - I like (5, Interesting)

xiong.chiamiov (871823) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126675)

I really like VLC. For the longest time, I used Winamp to play all my media files, but it is painfully slow. iTunes is okay, but still lacking. And WMP is out of the question (I try to run Windows as non-Microsoft as possible). Then, when trying to find something to run .ogm (Ogg Vorbis video files), I came across VLC, and haven't used anything since. And the fact that it's released under GNU doesn't hurt at all.

Re:vlc - I like (4, Informative)

alphakappa (687189) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126749)

One of the greatest features of VLC is that it will let you save any media that it can read. So whether it is a movie file or a streaming movie, it will let you save it to a file (or broadcast it). That is pretty much how *most* applications in other areas work - if you can read a file, you can save it too, but no other mainstream media player will let you do this for media files.

Re:vlc - I like (2, Insightful)

chris_eineke (634570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126904)

mplayer [mplayerhq.hu] does that just fine, thank you.

Re:vlc - I like (1)

Bonker (243350) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126865)

I like VLC and use it on my mac... but not as much as I like Media Player Classic [sourceforge.net] , which I use on my PC.

MPC is smaller, more versatile, and less tempremental.

Re:vlc - I like (1)

tloh (451585) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127073)

VLC is my favorite player as well. I use it almost exclusively - with one exception: subtitles. Many of the media I've gradually aquired come with *.srt subtitle files. So far, the only tool I've found that will process these is the DirectVobSub plugin. Unfortunately VLC can't use these (last I checked) as it requires directshow (?directx? my sources are a bit confusing). I wonder if some more resourceful souls out there can show me how to use *.srt subtitles with VLC (if at all).

Re:vlc - I like (3, Informative)

magefile (776388) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127115)

I use VLC with srt files. Granted, I'm using a Mac, but I bet it works on Windows, too. Your video/audio file must have the same name as the srt file (except the extension, obviously), then while the video is playing, select the Video menu. The bottom option should be the "Subtitles Track" option - just pick the one you want.

Re:vlc - I like (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127304)

When opening the media you can tick the box Subtitles, browse for the .srt file and voila..

I am using this for a long time now..

IMHO the subtitling needs some tweaking. PowerDVD has got great subtitling-function but the one in VLC is kinda crappy (sorry)

Re:vlc - I like (1)

tloh (451585) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127416)

got it working! thanks a lot!

Use MPlayer for windows (2, Informative)

coder111 (912060) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127128)

I'm using mplayer windows binaries with all the non-free DLL codecs, it plays everything I throw at it. It's fast, stable, and I can use same thing under windows I do use under linux.

You should try it too. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ [mplayerhq.hu]

--Coder

Once again, beaten by DIGG! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14126689)

-1 modifier, I thank you in advance!

DIGG had this already, waaaay before the slashdot-heads!

Good luck! :)

Re:Once again, beaten by DIGG! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14126745)

The world cares, deeply.

As in who gives a shit? Digg sucks ass.

Re:Once again, beaten by DIGG! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14126882)

Jealousy hurts, doesn't it?

Re:Once again, beaten by DIGG! (3, Funny)

Slashcrap (869349) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127498)

Jealousy hurts, doesn't it?

Digg = 1 line stories followed by 50 x 1 line comments. A lot like yours in fact.

That's why you like Digg isn't it? You feel that you are among intellectual equals. And from what I've seen you're almost certainly correct.

One question - if Digg is so good, why are you on Slashdot?

I look forward to your reply of "you suck" or "your mom smells" with baited breath.

PS. Now that you've aroused my interest I think I'm going to go and start trolling on Digg. Does Digg have the same protections against trolls that Slashdot has? No? Oh, so sad.

Re:Once again, beaten by DIGG! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127163)

Seriously, Digg has beeten slashdot on most of the stories in a long time, Slashdot is going downhill, crappy stories, dups, and trolls that have nothing better to do to insult $fanboy(n);

Im not too fond of blog postings or troll comments from Slashdot, but even just the RSS feeds, Digg has more stories that are posted sooner and are more relevent.

Not that slashdot or digg is a regular news site that has breaking story. They are on the other hand, a news aggregator, and as such, should try and gather relevent news in a timely basis. Digg is out performing Slashdot on this currently and the statistics reflect it.

Wired had a good story on how digg is gaining ground.
Hows about slashdot posts that, mabie they can learn something.

Re:Once again, beaten by DIGG! (1)

strider44 (650833) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127086)

uhuh, and I was downloading it from my debian repository before Digg had it. It's ten hours on a release notice. Who cares?

Mac OS X wizard? (5, Insightful)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126722)

I'll reserve judgment 'til I've used it a bit more, but nine times out of ten, wizards are a usability disaster that are only marginally better than the abomination of an interface that necessitated them to begin with. (Those nine times are usually in Microsoft products.) You shouldn't need a wizard to set things up, or to create things--the options should be right there in front of you, and not require elaborate explanation. Wizards are kind of alien to the whole OS X experience, even though there are a few examples of decent, helpful wizards in the OS.

Also, I notice the new VLC still doesn't have a nice way to compensate for audio desynchronization. There should be a slider or something on the controller to scrub the audio sync back and forth in realtime. Add to that the totally awkward menu to select where to play fullscreen--why not just play it on whatever display the window's in right now?--and overall I'm disappointed in this update.

That said, it's still the best "free" player out there for OS X I've seen yet. Congratulations to the developers. It could be a great product, if only they'd pay a little more attention to usability and elegance.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (1)

John Nowak (872479) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126750)

Try MPlayer instead. It has a problem where the menu bar changes (heaven forbid) depending on if you have the playing window selected or the controller window selected (the former menubar is mostly just blank I think), but overall it is less painful. I use it over VLC on OS X.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (3, Insightful)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126860)

It's a personal preference, I'm sure, but MPlayer makes VLC look like the fucking Chrysler building in terms of design. All things considered, VLC's not too bad--it's just that it could be much better, without (seemingly) much effort.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (1)

John Nowak (872479) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127017)

It is true that MPlayer lacks "design", but I'd take no design to poor design any day of the week.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (2, Insightful)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127072)

Nah, there's no such thing as "no design," only thoughtless design.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (2, Insightful)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127078)

Or, to reply to myself, "unintelligent design" if you prefer.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (1)

SleepyHappyDoc (813919) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127496)

it's just that it could be much better, without (seemingly) much effort

Can't wait to see your patch. When will you be done writing it?

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (4, Insightful)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127058)

Are you joking?

The GUI to mplayer on OS X is SO BAD it took me over a half hour to figure out how to quit the program. You click the movie window to bring it to the front, hit Command-Q, nothing happens. That's weird. You scrub the menus. No Quit option. Hmm. Let's try making the window bigger... Command-0, nothing. Command-1, nothing. (In pretty much every media player, Command-1 is half-size, Command-2 is normal-size, Command-3 is double-size, and Command-0 is full-screen. VLC is a bit different, but not so much that it's too confusing.)

Of course since I don't keep my Dock open all the time, little did I know that mplayer isn't ONE program, it's TWO programs... and the program that actually plays the movie doesn't quit. At all. It can't quit. But if you quit the *other* program, then it automatically goes away. I guess the "designer" of the GUI didn't know you could hide the Dock. Of course, even if he didn't, there's no excuse for putting two icons on it, one of which doesn't (for all practical purposes) work when you could use one in the first place.

Whoever "designed" this interface obviously had never used a Mac before or, possibly, even a GUI before. It's terrible. It's horrible. It violates almost every rule of good GUI design, and, as a result, it's a pain in the ass to use. I'm sorry. It's an F in my book.

VLC might not have all the codecs or whatever, that mplayer has, but you know what? It has a GUI that wasn't designed by an alien from the planet Weebo who's never seen a computer before, so it gets my download every time.

JUST HIT Q (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127169)

"At all. It can't quit."

yes i can, in exactly the same one as it does on every other platform that mplayer runs on: HIT Q.

or alternatively, use the mainline build instead of the old unmaintained os x fork: i think they have created a single integrated application now, which seems to be what you desire.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (-1, Flamebait)

jrockway (229604) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127429)

mplayer is a command-line program that sometimes opens up a window to play movies. The OS X gui just happens to make it easier for people who are too dumb to type "mplayer Movie.file".

As for the keybindings inside the GUI, I love them. I used mplayer under Linux and it works the same under OS X. VLC has a bloated GUI that makes easy tasks hard and hard tasks impossible.

q to quit, arrows to seek, f for fullscreen. What more could you want?

If there's something more that you want, then code it yourself. That's the point of OSS... you can code the features you want. Bitching and whining like a fucking crybaby is not part of the deal.

BTW, you could have saved yourself hours of randomly hitting keys (like a monkey trying to reproduce Shakespeare) if you had read the fucking manual.

I think what we've learned from this post is that you are a complete idiot. Please turn in your computer at the nearest police station... or something.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (2, Informative)

uiucmatse (855687) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126789)

Yeah, I agree wizards are usually awful. However, in VLC on OS X, it operates more like a "Save As..." command. There's no egregious handholding, it's just a far more Mac-like way to transcode video than digging through the standard method. Oh, and I don't like the new icon.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (1)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126836)

Yeah, is there any reason they changed the icon? The old one was a lot better, or at least it gave you an idea what the program does. So what the hell is a construction cone titled "VLC.app" supposed to do?

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127030)

VLC's logo has been that orange cone for a while, dude.

Not exactly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127168)

It used to be in a monitor. http://images.google.com/images?q=vlc+mac+icon [google.com]

why the road cone icon- drunken vandalism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127530)

VLC was originally put together by a bunch of french students. Apparently...students go out & get drunk and take odd things home with them- in this case road cones.

So there ya go...alcohol and youthful exuberance. I wonder what the British marines would have as their icon if they ever brought a multimedia player out?

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127076)

My main gripe with VLC right now is that if you set the DVD Autorun to start VLC instead of DVD Player, VLC starts but it won't automatically start playing the DVD. Apple's DVD Player steals focus about 5 times during the process of inserting a DVD, and it's a real pain in the ass... I'd prefer to avoid it entirely if at all possible, but starting up the DVD in VLC every time is a pain in the ass too. Right now, going with the 'stealing focus' pain in the ass beats out the 'choosing File-Open Disk, Ok' pain in the ass.

Of course, if Apple would fix their goddamned software, none of this would be an issue. A software program that steals focus and hasn't been fixed during the ENTIRE HISTORY OF OS X? What happened to your QA department, Apple? They all on sabbatical or something?

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127344)

Try hitting g and f for audio de-synchronization, it is not a new feature.

Re:Mac OS X wizard? (1)

Zhe Mappel (607548) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127489)

Fair points. UI criticism aside, we need VLC on OS X because Quicktime won't play everything.

As long as Apple won't combine elegance with usability, I'm grateful to those offering us usability without the elegance.

Wake me when it plays WMV3 on the Mac (4, Insightful)

Nova Express (100383) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126736)

That, to my mind, is the huge, gaping hole in VLC. And the latest version doesn't solve the problem, as WMV3 isn't supported on any now-Windows platform. [videolan.org] I would think that somebody would have reversed engineered the codec by now. It's hard to be the Swiss Army CanOpener of video formats when it doesn't open half of all the cans coming off the line...

Re:Have you contributed? (2, Interesting)

UCFFool (832674) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126770)

Just like any project, they have to prioritize. Besides the massive amount of codecs it already does, it has h.264 running very well, which I have seen a lot more than WMV, and I use it on windows... I suppose I just avoid Windows Media in general. THe simple point is, if you want this codec so badly, make a monetary donation and add a Note: please put this towards the WMV3 codec! Ask and ye shall receive, but a little motivation couldn't hurt.

Re:Have you contributed? (1)

jx100 (453615) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126834)

I believe the people working on WMV3 are either ffmpeg and/or DVD-jon. If you really want it to be supported, you might want to bug them instead. I know DVD-jon has figured out how to use the VC-1 codec (same as WMV3) in conjunction with VLC, but the VC-1 codec is not under an open-source license.

Re:Wake me when it plays WMV3 on the Mac (4, Informative)

Teilo (91279) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126810)

Try WMV Player [flip4mac.com] if you want an alternative to WMP on OS X. It lets Quicktime Player play any WMV file. It's not Open Source. It's not free. But it actually works better than WMP on a Mac.

Re:Wake me when it plays WMV3 on the Mac (1)

droleary (47999) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127488)

Try WMV Player if you want an alternative to WMP on OS X. It lets Quicktime Player play any WMV file. It's not Open Source. It's not free. But it actually works better than WMP on a Mac.

And yet it commits the same sin: requiring Administrator installation. There doesn't seem to be a single WMV option (other than the limited VLC support) that doesn't want root on my computer. When will these people learn that it's just supposed to be a bloody video codec, not a way to potentially compromise every machine it touches?

Re:Wake me when it plays WMV3 on the Mac (1)

eyeball (17206) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126831)

That, to my mind, is the huge, gaping hole in VLC. And the latest version doesn't solve the problem, as WMV3 isn't supported on any now-Windows platform. I would think that somebody would have reversed engineered the codec by now. It's hard to be the Swiss Army CanOpener of video formats when it doesn't open half of all the cans coming off the line...

Same with Indeo codecs under *nix. I can't believe how long they've been out but haven't been reversed engineered.

I believe it's not the matter of 'doable' (5, Informative)

wesley96 (934306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126856)

There are at least two solutions to decoding WMV3 video stream in OS X. But you know the first one is a horrible Microsoft implementation and the other one is a licensed codec package from Flip4Mac [flip4mac.com] that you have to pay. Currently, neither can't do what everyone wants... WMV3 video + MP3 audio in AVI container, which is the biting deficiency, and compounded by the fact that some anime file releases use exactly THAT format thanks to the existence of WMV9 VCM in Windows. Ugh.

As for VLC, it needs an OPEN-SOURCE decoder. Specifically, it'll be adapting something that ffmpeg [sourceforge.net] guys are doing. That team has been tackling WMV3, a.k.a. VC-1 / VC-3 / WMV9 stuff for about a year now. They put preliminary support in, what, February? Apparently, peeps have so far gotten the key frame to decode, but it freezes there.

So what I'm saying is, it's nice to donate to VLC guys, but help ffmpeg guys first.

Re:Just stop using WMV3 (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14126960)

I hate that codec. It's not like MPEG4 derivatives are multi-platform, why do people still insist on using WMV?

Re:Wake me when it plays WMV3 on the Mac (1)

Washii (925112) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126980)

I was under the impression that VLC would only use open-sourced codecs. So, even a reverse-engineered codec wouldn't necessarily make its way into VLC, right?

Afterall, the VLC people themselves aren't the ones CREATING and MODIFYING the codecs, just packing them with their player and making sure they work correctly.

Very Buggy for Me (1)

Dalroth (85450) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126741)

Am I doing something wrong? The last version of VLC was completely unusable on OS X. The new version doesn't seem much better. It's already hung hard once, and crashed two times on me.

Actually, looks like it's crashing every time I open it now. Nice.

Bryan

Re:Very Buggy for Me (1)

saihung (19097) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126787)

If you're doing something wrong then so am I - I had to downgrade to vlc 0.7.something to get OS X stability back. I don't see anything in the changelog about stability fixes.

Re:Very Buggy for Me (1)

olscratch69 (697288) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126798)

I have had the same problem with xmms. It locks up everytime I try to play and vid or mp3. I have been using VLC without any problems. Using 0.8.1 right now.

Re:Very Buggy for Me (1)

taylorc209 (928055) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126876)

i had the same problem, google it!! on vlc's website there is a solution, its a bug and invovles deleting a few preference files in /Users//library/preferences/ im recalling this from memory from a few months ago as i am too lazy to give exact instructions but once the right file and folder are deleted problem solved, for me at least. now when you go into preferences only change one item at a time until you figure out which one is causing the bug :)

Re:Very Buggy for Me (1)

otomo_1001 (22925) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126887)

I have no issue. osx 10.4.3, installed into my home directory under ~/Applications however. (I only install programs into my home directory, if they demand /Applications I politely refuse to use the app.

Grab the crash report from ~/Library/Logs/${app_name}.log and either fix what might be the cause or send in a bug report to get it fixed in vlc.

Cheers!

Re:Very Buggy for Me (4, Informative)

tholomyes (610627) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126916)

From the README.MacOSX.rtf:

14. VLC does not start anymore or does strange things
Delete your preferences and try again. You can use the script "Delete Preferences.app" on the disk-image to do that. If you want to do it by hand, delete "org.videolan.vlc.plist" and a folder called "VLC" in ~/Library/Preferences (your personal preferences-folder inside the library of your HOME). If this does not help, see 13.

Re:Very Buggy for Me (1)

J. Random Luser (824671) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127165)

Sorry, must be you. Follow the suggestions for deleting Prefs, and at last resort, Delete Prefs, do a search for any lingering caches, Delete the app and reinstall.
I had already sneaked a couple of the developer releases of 0.8.4 and found them rock steady and pulling a few extra tricks over 0.8.1, and with OS 10.4.3 on my unsupported hardware.

hiccups, no variable speed or frame by frame (1)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127189)

Am I doing something wrong? The last version of VLC was completely unusable on OS X.

I've had virtually the same experience; it loves to start skipping frames heavily and then grind to a complete stop- despite using only about 1/3rd of the available CPU power according to top. The only solution is to pause and wait a good 10-15 seconds. Also, doing things in other programs now seems to heavily influence VLC; I can load up a rather simple webpage in Firefox and VLC will drop video+audio frames all over the place.

It also stutters when playing back over anything slower than local disk; 100BaseT isn't fast enough for a 256kB/sec file to play properly, and over 802.11g (full signal yadda yadda) it's even worse. Nobody on the VLC IRC channel has been able to explain why, but it seems that the buffer is completely exhausted, then a read is performed to fill the buffer, and playback continues. Why the buffer isn't "floating" or doesn't at LEAST intelligently adjust how soon it refills the buffer is beyond me- but not being able to play a 256KB stream over 802.11G is absolutely inexcuseable.

Lengthening the buffer sort of helps- but VLC takes at least the buffer length to respond to rew/fw/pause, so a 1 second buffer means you hit pause, and one second later it actually pauses.

A more general beef I have is that unlike Xine on Linux, you can't do variable speed playback or frame-by-frame advance/rewind. I've often had times I wished I could take a screengrab of something, but after a half dozen tries I still wasn't able to pause exactly where I wanted. Mplayer has this sort of functionality (I THINK), but I haven't been able to find ANY documentation as to what the default keyboard shortcuts are for Mplayer on ANY platform.

Re:hiccups, no variable speed or frame by frame (0, Flamebait)

jrockway (229604) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127453)

> I haven't been able to find ANY documentation as to what the default keyboard shortcuts are for Mplayer on ANY platform.

Use the source, Luke. That's the point of OSS... you can open up the code in emacs and see what it's doing. If that's too hard, then maybe you shouldn't be using a computer.

Simply one of the best (5, Informative)

quadra23 (786171) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126788)

Always been one of my favorites on any platform.

I agree from my own experience. In fact, I find files (or discs) that either work strange or not at all on other media players (such as Windows Media Player or WinAMP) run just (or very close to) perfect on VLC. The capability to play VCD, SVCD, DVD, DVD (with menues) was a feature that I also found make the player even more flexible.

Does anyone here have experience with VLC for running your own streaming server? Also, anyone know if they are going to add capability to play RealPlayer files? I find RealPlayer as a major bloatware and RealAlternative (no offense, just from my experience) looks too much like (and as featured limited as) the original media player in Windows 95/98. For a good reference here's a full table [videolan.org] of all features available on all the various Operating Systems that VLC works with. Very good product and highly recommended!

Instead of using a client like VLC (1)

simdan (207210) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126985)

for a streaming server, you may want to consider a streaming server like VideoLAN's VLS. :-)

Anime (3, Informative)

Parham (892904) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126797)

A lot of people recommend this very player for anime playback. Anime tends to come in a lot of formats (avi, mpeg, mkv, ogm) with a lot of codec requirements, and this player seems to have become a favorite in the anime circles. This is one of my favorite players and it's completely replaced most of the other media players I used to use.

Re:Anime (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127023)

What a load of BS. VLC is recommended as a last resort to amoeba-level leechers who, despite attempts at educating, haven't managed to grasp how install the few odd filters you need to play files using directshow and a decent player.

I notice VLC's internal subtitle filter is still broken. Try seeing how sweet those .ssa/.ass scripts look when a player ignores their stylings; hell, even things tagged as comments show onscreen. Don't even ask about karaoke effects...

Re:Anime (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127164)

They only recommend it for anime playback if they know nothing about the fansubbing community.

For ALL your anime playback needs (and just about any other video playback) use the CCCP:
http://cccp-project.net/ [cccp-project.net]

Re:Anime (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127184)

I use Media Player Classic.

Of course my need for OGM/MKV is super-limited, as anything that might have multiple audio tracks I generally have the DVD for (which MPC handles marvelously.)

One of the bigger perks... (4, Interesting)

(H)elix1 (231155) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126826)

One of the biggest perks for using VLC is it does *not* honor the 'thou shall not fast forward through the FBI warning and any damn previews/ads we applied the same flag to' setting. Skips right on by.

Re:One of the bigger perks... (3, Informative)

J. Random Luser (824671) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127136)

is that it is Region 0 out of the box. Apple's DVD player allows you to set(change) a fixed region 4 times before resorting to some hack to start again. I assume if MS abides by the MPAA rule then WMP behaves similarly. Meanwhile VLC just plays any DVD I chuck at it, never asks what Region.

Re:One of the bigger perks... (1)

EiZei (848645) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127145)

.. THIEF!

Re:One of the bigger perks... (1)

niha (8430) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127356)

No, he is just a pragmatic...

Re:One of the bigger perks... (1)

remmelt (837671) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127407)

I think you meant to say the word "COMMUNIST!" instead.

Re:One of the bigger perks... (1)

VJ42 (860241) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127462)

I thought "TERRORIST!" was the in word now.

Re:One of the bigger perks... (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127159)

Hehe, I would buy a dvd player just for the fact that it had a "No UPOs!" sticker on the box...

I see the Windows and Mac users are out in mass.. (1)

msimm (580077) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127224)

I'd never even bothered with VLC, never understood all the hubris. Totem, Xine, Mplayer, Linux is absolutely brimming with media players that avoid the apparent pangs of the proprietary world.

That said I'll have to check it out. :)

Re:One of the bigger perks... (1)

payndz (589033) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127366)

Another perk is that it completely bypasses the region coding on my Mac's DVD drive. Use Apple DVD Player? Limited number of region changes before it locks permanently. Use VLC? Plays whatever DVD I want from any part of the world. And I can get screencaps from it with the usual Apple-3/4 key combo, as opposed to having to use SnapzPro or whatever as with Apple's player.

Shout output module to forward streams to icecast (1)

Air-conditioned cowh (552882) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126872)

Yup, this is the big I'm interested in! I wonder if it will also work with OGG/Theora that way.

Unfortunately I will have to compile this from source for Linux because the rpm and deb packages are so hopelessly lame. They only enable half the codecs (like Theora) or functions (like PVR support) for no good reason I know about. However, whoever looks after the Windows installer pays a lot more care and attention and the Windows version is more representative of what VLC can do. I even resort to running it under Wine sometimes.

Yes, I did re-complile the RPMs myself for my particular distro of choice and one day I might even get them accepted!

I think about 60% of my Slashdot posts over the last few months have been about how peeved I am with half-assed-compiled VLC Linux packages.

Re:Shout output module to forward streams to iceca (1)

Slashcrap (869349) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127475)

Yes, I did re-complile the RPMs myself for my particular distro of choice and one day I might even get them accepted!

No, you won't. There's a perfectly valid reason why your distro of choice doesn't compile in all of the codecs - they would like to avoid being sued out of existence.

You see, pretty much every media format except for OGG/Theora is patented up the wazoo. So anyone that distributes binaries may as well just paint "sue me suckers" on their chest.

Now the guy that has built the Windows binaries and put them up for download obviously doesn't care about the threat of legal action. You could say that he has big balls. Positively massive in fact.

So here's a solution - you can put your homemade RPM up for download. Of course you will make yourself the target for a team of highly trained attack lawyers. But since you are a) happy to suggest that others take the risk on your behalf and b) so concerned that 60% of your posts are about this very issue, I don't see why it should be a problem for you. It can be your contribution to Open Source.

No need to thank me - just send me a postcard when you get to Guantanamo.

Volume Control (1)

oksteev (772300) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126892)

Worst volume control of all time...

Re:Volume Control (1)

hacksaw56 (934313) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126965)

Try configuring the controls. Once I found out that I can change nearly every control to the key combination of my choice, I was delighted. Besides, why use the mouse when you can do the same thing much quicker from the keyboard?

Re:Volume Control (1)

Chemical (49694) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127110)

Or, my personal favorite, assign it to the mouse wheel

Re:Volume Control (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127162)

So i didnt RTFM, how do you do that?

Re:Volume Control (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127280)

From the Settings menu, select Prefrences. Under Interface, select Hotkeys settings. In there, change Volume Up and Volume Down to Mouse Wheel Up and Mouse Wheel Down, respectivly. Uncheck Ctrl unless you want to have to hold Ctrl. Please note this only seems to work in fullscreen mode. Also it doesn't seem to work in Linux, only in Windows (on my system anyway). VLC is great and all but it still has some kinks to be worked out.

Site slashdotted, mirror (2, Informative)

EspoManiac (744264) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126919)

Download from mirror at this location:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=115 8&s=171 [free-codecs.com]

Re:Site slashdotted, mirror (1)

hacksaw56 (934313) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126984)

Ahem. Can it really be respectfully called a "mirror" when only the win32 version is available? Sigh... - Patiently Waiting Linux User

Slashdotted by Digg earlier (1)

saskboy (600063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126920)

The VLC site was down earlier today when I tried downloading it. Has anyone made a torrent of this release? Mirrors?

I figured out how to take a screen capture the other day in .82, you have to specificly set a directory to save the capture to, otherwise the option on the menu would say it was capturing but never gave an error to say it had no place to save it to.

The volume control is also less accurate than other programs' I've used. But I've had better luck playing more files with VLC than Media Player Classic.

What's the fuss? (1)

ajdlinux (913987) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126950)

A mac os X wizard only works for people with macs. A new cone? That's a huge improvement. A new codec loader: the only *useful* improvement that's listed in the article. This is only a *minor* release.

I know I'm spoiled (1)

winmine (934311) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126959)

I still use WinAmp for audio files. I can play an entire folder of music with one right-click on the folder itself, as opposed to taking all that effort into opening the player beforehand. If VLC had this function, there'd be no contest. But then again, maybe I'm just spoiled.

Re:I know I'm spoiled (1)

hfarberg (593921) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127511)

This has been possible with VLC for a while. You just have to enable the option called "Context Menus" when you install. You will be given an option saying Add to VLC media player's Playlist when you right click the folder.

Xine Vs. VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14126968)

From what I see on the website, VLC looks a lot like Xine. I know that Xine handles all the codecs I'm concened about just fine (wmv, mpeg, mov), so why is VLC so much better?

its my tv! (1)

nihaopaul (782885) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126983)

well vlc for me works 90% of the time, i use it as my personal tv player since tv in china sucks (output to svideo, love nvidia), so now i have VOD with pause :D all via the httpd interface, it only crashes after a week or so of deleting and adding items to the play list, so now i'm going to go over and compile this sucka for freebsd, well done guys

Forget the OS X version.... (0, Redundant)

mblase (200735) | more than 8 years ago | (#14126994)

...I just tried playing a standard AVI file I got from my digital camera using the latest version of VLC. It promptly opened an oversized window that filled the screen, showed no video, and maxed out my processor until I was able to quit the thing.

Back to 0.8.3 for me, I guess....

Plugin (1)

GFunk83 (686657) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127020)

I like VLC quite a bit as my main media (read: video) player on Fedora Core, but there's one thing missing:

I understand there is a plugin for Mozilla but where is the one for Firefox?!

Re:Plugin (5, Informative)

jZnat (793348) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127041)

Same plugin architecture (the Netscape plugin architecture that is), so it'll work in Mozilla, Netscape, Firefox, etc. Just copy it to your ~/.mozilla/plugins/ directory (%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Plugins\ in windows IIRC).

OSX coming leaps and bounds (5, Funny)

McCarrum (446375) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127026)

In the changelog ..

Mac OS X port:
* New script to delete the preferences automatically

I see OSX is now getting standard Windows functionality ..

Re:OSX coming leaps and bounds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127341)

Shouldn't you be looking for removal guides to help you remove spyware from your registry or something?

size differens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127035)

why is the Windows version without the installer 6mb larger than the one with the installer?

Size Difference (1)

zbuffered (125292) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127244)

The installer compresses files.

Re:Size Difference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127515)

After years of using microsoft media player, quicktime, winamp to play videos I came across VLC after somebody mentioned it . This program is a must and should come as standard on windows infact Bill gates should buy them .

Ignores DVD Region Code (5, Interesting)

Nice2Cats (557310) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127056)

For those of us whose lives are lived between two or more of the infamous DVD regions (in my case, Europe and the U.S.), VLC is an absolute godsend. Every Mac user should get it: Apple's DVD Player wants me do pick one or the other RC, while VLC just plays the damn thing. Quicktime gives me nag entries in the menus -- like, I pay a four-digit sum for a computer and they won't throw in the $40 fee for the full fuctionality? Really clever, Jobs -- and so if I want to play around with the size and other stuff, I just use VLC for QT instead. VLC is one of the coolest pieces of software out there, free or corporate, and anybody who is not using it on whatever platform should be treated with suspicion -- they probably work for the RIAA or eat babies. Or both.

Thanks, guys, for all the great work. This and Firefox are some of the ones that make all the difference.

Re:Ignores DVD Region Code (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127216)

I pay a four-digit sum for a computer and they won't throw in the $40 fee for the full fuctionality? Really clever, Jobs


The extra charge for QuickTime Pro predates The Return of The Steve.

Among other things, the amount of money Apple has to pay organizations like the MPEG-LA [mpegla.com] for patent licence fees varies with whether Apple's customer is "Pro" or not. Moreover, for some formats Apple must pay the patent holders or their agents varying fees for reading and creating (or exporting) video and audio.

For "Pro" users who use QuickTime as part of their day jobs, $40 is pretty small. Adding $40 to the bills of the hundreds of thousands of other Mac users whenever they buy a new machine or upgrade to QuickTime generally wouldn't make them happier. It'd delight the various patent holders other than Apple, though!

Yes, it's annoying, but that's the patent system for you...

On the other hand, QuickTime Player's "reminder" panes and other enticements can be distracting, but it's not as if there aren't various possibly legal workarounds.

Doesn't ignore DVD Region Code (1)

funtime (806157) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127298)

Apparently, the drive on the new powerbooks doesn't let VLC get by without asking for regions.

Re:Ignores DVD Region Code (4, Informative)

myspys (204685) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127486)

It should be noted that the newer Powerbooks will ask you for a new region code and if you select Cancel it will automatically eject the DVD, thus rendering it impossible to even try with VLC :-/

Re:Ignores DVD Region Code (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127513)

That isn't really true - you can still play all region dvds fine by turning off autoplay then using vlc.

Re:Ignores DVD Region Code (2, Insightful)

Zhe Mappel (607548) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127510)

Quicktime gives me nag entries in the menus -- like, I pay a four-digit sum for a computer and they won't throw in the $40 fee for the full fuctionality? Really clever, Jobs Agreed. Apple's cheapness on this issue is sad; nickle and diming your customers is especially silly when the system ships with extraneous iApps. Look, Apple, I'll trade you my useless iMovie just so Quicktime can do what *free* players everywhere do.

Most polished (1)

linforcer (923749) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127392)

I Think it's one of the most polished player on the Linux desktop. I really don't like the way xine and MPlayer have their controls, and Totem is lacking in other departments. The only other player on Linux that has this polished look is realplayer but well... it's realplayer.

Nice, but i like Media Player Classic a lot more (1)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127404)

Media Player Classic is still my player of choice on windows. It has a nice interface, can step through videos, play fan subs, bookmark etc.

VLC is nice but the ui isnt so hot and it seems to do odd things sometimes.

VLC and others... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14127454)

I use many different players due to the hopeless muddle of codecs available. Basically, I can play any video file you throw at me if you give me enough time. This list shows just how bad it really is:

VLC: For use when PowerDVD gets the shakes, media player classic doesn't work, windows media player doesn't work, the Zoom player doesn't work, Quicktime doesn't work, and for streaming over a network

Media Player Classic: The awesomest player in the world due to its small size and ability to play RealMedia and Quicktime files (usually), the ability to play Windows-based codecs without dropping frames like in VLC, and for use when sites give links like in Amazon (for the audio previews, copy the location and paste it into the "Open File" dialog box).

Zoom Player: A good backup. Both this and MPClassic come with the Real Alternative pack.

Quicktime Player: Good for when all other Quicktime-playing software fails and H.264

PowerDVD: When VLC refuses to play the AVI or MPG file with issues, PowerDVD has an awesome capability - it just skips frames instead of freezing, and it ALWAYS keeps in sync.

Windows Media Player (definitely not to be confused with MPClassic): It's kind of ok, and so far has only shown its worth when playing H.264 codecs provided by the Combined Community Codecs Pack. Oh yeah, and MP3s don't sound too bad either.

DivX Player: Released by the DivX Labs, the latest version is much, much more stable and offers post-processing for ATI video cards. It can clean up your heavily compressed AVI file very nicely, but does require a noticable amount of resources to do so. PowerDVD (I'm pretty sure) can perform slightly the same job for a fraction of the processing time, though I could be wrong since I haven't tested it all that much.

Winamp: The venerable Winamp has shown itself a resource hog in its older days. When will they actually begin to optimize it instead of adding new features or security fixes that shouldn't be required in the first place? I have 2.9 for sentimental reasons, though I use version 5 for my music, coupled with HQProcsoft to milk as much from my Audigy 2 card as possible (uses software resampling - I now have audio resampled to 9600 and an output bit resolution of 32). HQProcsoft is like aural candy, and Winamp's music plugins like the Pacemaker and the visualizations are quite simply, awesome. Not for use for video files unless you want to clean the audio up. You will notice a substantial improvement using HQProcsoft in conjunction with video files though (warning: wmv is not supported by HQProcsoft)!

I use every single one of those players regularly, trying to find the one which shows the best picture and sound for any single video file I am viewing. I have actually not used Winamp all that often for video files, preferring Windows Media Player Classic for most of my needs (where else can you get such an awesome interface with instant access to subtitles, audio types,etc.?). I'm not recommending you do what I do, but hopefully what I've said above will help you choose. As a rule of thumb, you should only really need windows media player classic and VLC for most applications. Though with the rise of H.264, anything could happen.

Pause for thought, frame advance (1)

tod_miller (792541) | more than 8 years ago | (#14127528)

- New extended controls panel

Does this mean pausing and frame controls are implemented? What am I doing here - I should be downloading this!

oh I am.
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